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March 19, 2007

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Frank Cummings

Nell, there’s a pleasing logic in your final point: “Fiduciaries shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the key is the return participants are getting net of fees, so fees shouldn't be the only consideration. However, compared on a net basis, lower fees will often result in better performance.” It’s pleasing, but I think its premise may be misleading, for a number of reasons - but mainly because (1) it’s at odds with the letter of the law, and (2) if it were the law, then once that door is opened, crooks and thieves could and would come through it.

First, the letter of the law. A payment from a plan to a service provider is a flat-out prohibited unless it is “reasonable compensation.” E.g., ERISA secs. 406(a)(1)(C) & (408(b)(2), IRC secs. 4975(c)(1)(C) & 4975(d)(2) (which you cite in the second paragraph of your posting). Apart from the disclosure problem, the premise of any legal challenge to such a payment is that it is unreasonable. So if you assume (in order to get to your theory) that it is not, in fact, “reasonable,” then you suggest that it should still be allowed if it’s a good deal for the participants. In other words, let’s allow prohibited transactions as long as they are a good deal for the participants. OK - but then it’s not a matter of interpreting the law - it’s a question of amending it.

Second, the policy of the law. If you propose amending the law and opening this door, who comes through it? “No harm, no foul?” Every mob figure can show that, by paying him off, you’re better off then if you don’t pay him off. That may be prudent, but to allow it as legislative policy is simply unacceptable.


Judy Mazo

Nell, I strongly agree with your final point, which is that ultimately the standard should be results net of fees. But periodically speakers and litigants seem to take the position that there is a duty not to overpay, even for excellent performance. For example, people complain that 75 bp on $1 billion is a lot more than 75 bp on $1 million, so the same rate of compensation for the same provider might be unreasonable if the amount is so large.

It is true that fiduciaries should press for lower fee rates as the size of the fund increases, as part of their due diligence. But do you -- or others out there -- think there is some sort of duty to pay no more than a "reasonable" rate?

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